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Thanks to Ford, the E-Type is dead
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Posted by: Mr. P

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...p?f=85&t=160389

Thanks to poor allocation, marketing, fucked-in-the-head designers that have more ego than talent, and the Ford accounting department, a product that made history and had fantastic world-wide potential, is dead.

If you want an E-type, better get one now, if there are any left in the showrooms. Good car, shitty support from Ford, and waaaay too much design influence. Yeah I know, some of them are pimpmobiles, but the hardtop is akin to the Aston in design. Who is next, Aston Martin?????

Thanks Ford, for the memories.

Mr. P

Posted by: Grape Ape

When was the last E-type made again? Sheesh P, it's a car with low, at best, sales. In todays market, it needs to be dropped, then revived!! That'll make it sell.

Posted by: Mr. P

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape


	When was the last E-type made again? Sheesh P, it's a car with low, at best, sales. In todays market, it needs to be dropped, then revived!! That'll make it sell.

Yeah I know, the E "technically" went out a long time ago, and my headlines may be misleading, but my point is that Ford bought the company, bought the history, bought what was left of the E heritage, and pissed it away.

At $80,000 the XK8 is a good looking coupe, but it's the same body chassis as the Aston, which Ford is in the process of fucking up too, using "two V6 Ford motors cobbled together and calling it an Aston Martin V-12. Someone is rolling over in their grave over that one.

The XK8 is the evolution of the XKE, but it's an 80-Grand puffed up "Camaro" that probably doesn't run any better than a Camaro, but is sporting the Jag badge on the front until Ford milks out the last drop, and then drops the model all together. The XK has some inspiration, especially in the coupe body style, but it's half way between the UK where the inspiration and the US where the accountants and the pimps are. Making any more sense (didn't think so) ha ha.

Mr. P

Posted by: VETTKLR

See ya.

Posted by: Grape Ape

I thought I read some time back that the V12 was contrived much like the GT90's V12, by cutting into two MOD motors and mending the big parts together. Probably someone making a mistake, but I never had much interest in the JAG at all until recently. I'm still not terribly interested, but the do have some "neato" ideas in them.

Posted by: Mr. P

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape


	I thought I read some time back that the V12 was contrived

...........accountant driven design, yawn. When thay have people out there like Falconer building a brilliant V12 and making a profit just building the motor, wonder how much money Ford saved using the V6 out of a Taurus? http://www.falconerengines.com/prod04.htm It pisses me off when I see accountant driven engineering, compared to clean concepts built from engineering inspiration. Ford is always looking for a "cheaper idea", the new byline, not to be equated with a "better idea". Want a better idea for the Aston Martin......then get Ford the hell out of their mess kit. I wonder how many Aston owners these days really know they're running around in a car with Ford V6 quality under the hood? It used to be people bought them because of their racing pedigree, not their economy car roots.

Mr. P

Posted by: Mr. P

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Originally Posted by VETTKLR


	See ya.

Here, let me get that door for ya, don't trip on your way OUT

har har

Now back to our regularly scheduled program:
Case in point: look what Ford did with AC cars. From all appearances, Ford bought AC just to keep someone else from buying them, and then ran them about as far into the ground as they could go and still have a weak pulse. After a bloodletting like that, AC would be starting all over from scratch. I'm a Ford guy too, but Ford sure pulls a boner on a regular basis.

They may still be building the XK, but it's already a dead duck, sadly.

Mr. P

Posted by: Mr. P

The V12 6.0-litre, 48-valve engine is developed from the all alloy, twin overhead camshaft unit used in the DB7 Vantage. In effect, this engine is two Mondeo V6 motors butted together.

(and Ford is marketing this product against Ferrari, ha ha ha.....better not put it on the race track....they're fast, yes, but for how long)

Mr. P

Posted by: a93vr4gt3000

the two v6's is pretty crappy. I saw a late model XK8 with under 30k miles sit in the paper for sale for over a year, it finally got down to about $27k. I dont know if he ever sold it.

Ford has done some good things for Mazda, however. The RX-8 would not have flown if it wasnt for Ford giving it the green light.

Posted by: Slow Nova

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Originally Posted by a93vr4gt3000


	Ford has done some good things for Mazda, however. The RX-8 would not have flown if it wasnt for Ford giving it the green light.

It's too bad they never got the original claimed power #'s out of that engine. How many times did they have to revise the HP #'s?

Posted by: a93vr4gt3000

Yeah, I think it finally ended up aroud 235 or so. It's still a huge leap forward for the rotory, I'd love to see them put one in something the size of the miata.

Posted by: KJ

no shit the e series is dead no more e100 e250 or e350 what else does ford make that can be used as such a cool camper

VANS RULE

Posted by: Slow Nova

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Originally Posted by KJ


	no shit the e series is dead no more e100 e250 or e350 what else does ford make that can be used as such a cool camper VANS RULE

Ford still makes the e-series.

http://www.carpoint.com
http://autos.yahoo.com

Maybe you should pick one up. I bet it would hang pretty good with your Porche in the twisties.

Posted by: Geargrabber

Jags have an awesome racing pedigree....if you consider the term to mean waiting in a driveway for a rollback because you have had electrical failure and your V-12 won't start. Jags suck P. The only time you can succesfully race one is when you have full factory backing and a truck full of spare parts following you around.

And yes, I completely agree that all this accounting based engineering and platform sharing is bullshit. Cars are all the same now except for the sheemetal wrapped around the unibody. Oh, and the XK8 is pretty nice looking

Posted by: IROC_ZO6

interjection from the thread sniping smartass.

this thing is badass

looks like an LS1 with 4 extra pistons, cam-in-block and everything!

ok, you may now carry on...

Posted by: Mr. P

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Originally Posted by IROC_ZO6


	interjection from the thread sniping smartass. this thing is badass looks like an LS1 with 4 extra pistons, cam-in-block and everything! ok, you may now carry on...

IROC, you're not all that bad, you've show you can be rehabilitated if you just stay away from the wrong people, like that lame gay friend of yours.

This doesn't mean you can pinch me on the ass by the way.

Mr. P

Posted by: Mr. P

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Originally Posted by Geargrabber


	Jags have an awesome racing pedigree....if you consider the term to mean waiting in a driveway for a rollback because you have had electrical failure and your V-12 won't start. Jags suck P. The only time you can succesfully race one is when you have full factory backing and a truck full of spare parts following you around. And yes, I completely agree that all this accounting based engineering and platform sharing is bullshit. Cars are all the same now except for the sheemetal wrapped around the unibody. Oh, and the XK8 is pretty nice looking

There was a day when I remember Bob Tullius ruled in a Jag. I saw him put away a lot of good machines at Road Atlanta, and his GROUP 44 (do a Google on that) was just awesome, with full factory support too.

http://www.jaguar.org.au/images/xjs/xjsblackbeast.jpg

Tullius and Paul Newman teamed up on occasion too, and Tullius remains one of my all time favorite competion drivers.

Tullius was a great competitor, take a look at the link below, his bio.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...r%3D%26sa% 3DG

Mr. P

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