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05 GTO meets the Drag Strip (and gets owned)

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Posted by: KrautBurner

I'll start off by making my excuses:
it was HOT (95 air / 110 track)
I have only owned the car for a month

here's the info


R/T .319
60' 2.182
330' 6.022
1/8 9.101
mph 80.45
1000' 11.714
1/4 13.913
mph 102.20

first time at the track
2005 M6 (4K miles)
exhaust X-pipe, magnaflow mufflers
K&N CAI
Everything else stock (including tires)

Track was HOT
air was about 95
Track was 106-110 all day
I got in 16 runs, stayd pretty consistant 13.9x-14.2x all afternoon
I was pretty much hot lapping except when I took a break to cool off.



Posted by: VETTKLR

take it easy on the wheelspin coming out of the hole.

Every tenth you shave off in the 60' will cut 2 tenths in your quarter times.

Lookin good, dude. See if you can find some more wheels and get some ET Radials.
...oh yeah, some spray and LS1 Edit too.



Posted by: KrautBurner

Quote:
Originally Posted by VETTKLR
take it easy on the wheelspin coming out of the hole.

Every tenth you shave off in the 60' will cut 2 tenths in your quarter times.

Lookin good, dude. See if you can find some more wheels and get some ET Radials.
...oh yeah, some spray and LS1 Edit too.




will LS1 Edit work for an LS2?
the predator is not out for my car yet.
probrobly not going with spray (yet )

not much available for wheels yet,
they are 5x120



Posted by: 99FRC

Looks to me like you are bogging off the line. I say this because when I 60 in the 2.1-2.2 range and run low MPH I bogged it. Now when I have a 2.1 60 and high MPH I spun thru the first few gears.

Anyways great first outing...



Posted by: LS1JAY

Last time I had the SS at the track before I got rid of it, it went 2.2 60ft and a 8.40@89+ in not so good air spinnin' like a mofo! What do the GTO's average in decent air hooking? That seems kinda low for a LS2?



Posted by: GMR

You might of got owned by the torque management, it kills a lot of power.

Heres an article from another forum.

LS

The LS2 has been interesting so far.... Once the COT is set and or disabled it is easy to dial in AFR. The Tq management is a real limiter on the performance but we can disable it. The LS2s are all VERY sensitive TOO sensitive to intake air temp. Testing on the dyno has proved very promising.

General-Right now LS2 edit will allow us to manipulate idle quality and airflow tables for guys with cams and such. We can raise the rev limiter, and idle speed. Note: most C6s with intake and exh make peak power @ 6200RPM. We can mask codes if needed depending on mods. The CAGS can be disabled. It wont be long before it can be used as a shift light like it was on the C5s. We can set the fans to come on at a given temp. Tq mngmt can be set to a limiter over 6000ft lbs. as opposed to the stk limit of 281ft lbs. When the TM is set out of range part throttle becomes much more responsive. I believe that the stk tables are not allowing the throttle blade to be manipulated like you think they should be with your right foot. It is not a 1:1 relationship between the pedal and throttle blade but once that has been changed the response is very different and under the curve she is much more fun to drive.


Fuel-We can change the fuel curve throughout from the base tables to the WOT. We can put the AFR where it needs to be and disable the COT that overly enrichens the mixture.

Spark timing-We have the control to make the high and low octane tables the same so when there is knock detected you will not be losing timing accross the board by defaulting to the low oct table. Intake air temp timing retard is very aggressive on the C6. When it heats up it loses power. We make it much more aggressive to average more power accross the power band after she heats up. We are able to control timing from idle up thru WOT in very precise load increments. We can do boosted applications and dry nitrous as well.

Our experiences-When one runs a car hard through the gears or on the dyno back to back it loses a significant amount of power. We ran a stk '05 GTO back to back and from the first run to the second we lost 22RWHP and 30RWTQ due to the AFR getting richer but primarily it was because of reduced timing. We put back in alot more timing into the intake air temp so it wasnt as aggressive as it was from the factory and deleted the COT and now it doesnt lose that kind of power between runs and or on hard street floggings. We didnt pick up much power on that bone stock car but it is consisntent now. Say for example on my 99FRC when I make back to back runs the car actually gains power. It doesnt get too hot but the oil is up to temp and it doesnt pull back any timing. The vettes stk IAT tables are very close to the GTOs and many will se this very thing happen.
Overall we see an average of about 13RWHP on C6s with intake and exh. It is not so much the peak power but you will feel under the curve, more throttle response and it will be sharper and rev crisper. 13RWHP does not sound like alot but I am being honest and it feels alot more than that. The more the vehicle is modded the more is to be gained. We make the car more consistent and average more power after she heats up (where she typically will lose power).
Overall the software is good and getting better as time goes on. We do mail orders from accross the globe and can handle your combination. If any of you would like references of our work please PM me or if you would like pricing please PM me. We have performance packages available for your car. We aim to be the best.
There is no handheld programmer that will be able to do what custom tuning can nor will it be as thorough.
I will try to keep you guys posted.
Thank you and God Bless
Jeremy Formato

http://www.revxtreme.com/store/



Posted by: LS1JAY

torque management sucks!



Posted by: crazy02horse

i have a 02 lightly modded gt and i can beat the ls1 all day but the ls2 flies past me at 80mph



Posted by: LS1JAY

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy02horse
i have a 02 lightly modded gt and i can beat the ls1 all day but the ls2 flies past me at 80mph

Ummm, okay... So what's it run?



Posted by: KrautBurner

http://video.ls1tech.com/player.asp...D4-A37252C921E5

R/T .161
60' 2.153
330 5.912
1/8 8.899
mph 83.11
1000 11.434
1/4 13.569
mph 105.26



Posted by: KrautBurner

I don't have all my info here at work

but here are the real numbers

13.2x@107.7mph
2.18x 60'

air was nice and cool
but the track was too.
lots of wheel hop

but I'm getting more consistant, and faster.
ran 5 times this day,
all of them trapped 106.8 or higher

headers are getting ordered in about a week


Russ



Posted by: KrautBurner

for me it was a good day,

got 5 runs in (place was crowded, and quite a few broken cars on the track)

my best run was my last run (against another 05 Pontiac GTO)

my times on left, another 2005 gto on right

R/T .151 .445
60' 2.180 2.146
330 5.759 5.774
1/8 8.104 8.726
MPH 85.43 83.84
1000 11.153 11.238
1/4 13.252 13.359
MPH 107.71 106.36

different tires, and I'll be in the 12.s




Russ



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