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Posted by: maverick2010

Do you think that most parts of the Bible can be taken Literally

Posted by: GMR

Here we go again

lol
Well, Im no Bible expert nor do I play one on TV, although I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, so here are my thoughts.
I think at some point in time, it was meant to be taken literal. However over the course of a few thousand years(or however long ago I have no clue), countless languages translations(Hell its hard enough for me to translate from spanish to english within a few seconds of time at work), people sneaking in their own opinions and removing certain parts every once in a while. Its very hard to tell now

I remember my Freshman year in college, I wrote a paper over religon. Over the course of about 6 weeks I sat in on several masses from different religons and talked to each of their Sunday school teachers, preists, whoever I could find. I was shocked at some of the things some of them said concerning other religons.

And how drasticly some of them contradicted each other.
In the end I was more confused than when I began

Posted by: skeezix

What's a bible?

Posted by: maverick2010

From the 6 that said no. Tell me why?

Posted by: merczephyr

IMHO...Organized religon bites.

Posted by: MikeT

tuff question to answer. By "most" parts, exactly what ones are you reffering to? The old testament, new? Only certain parts?

I'm no biblical scholar, but I do read it from time to time. I find parts in the old testament like the accounts of Noah's decendants and how they all lived for several hundered years hard to swallow. Other parts are clearly historcally accurate to a degree.

I don't go to church because frankly I just don't like it. Every church seems to push its own interpretation of the bible and has its own agendas. I simply don't trust people enough to follow what they say. I try to figgure things out on my own instead.

Besides I don't like being cooped up in a room with a bunch of smelly old people.

Posted by: Markus

Because it was written BY man, to control other men. its a crock of shite.

Posted by: BigBluOx

Similar to what GMR said, I highly doubt there's enough left of the original text (which for the most part was likely based on attitudes and perceptions of the time it was written - not current) that you can't take it literally. Human perception is a funny thing, and those in "power" tend to force their perception on those they wish to control.

Posted by: 3SuperSports

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Originally Posted by MikeT


	I don't go to church because frankly I just don't like it. Every church seems to push its own interpretation of the bible and has its own agendas. I simply don't trust people enough to follow what they say. I try to figgure things out on my own instead.

This is pretty much my opinion of organized religion too.
I believe there is a God, because I choose to believe it. I don't believe the bible to be the word of God though.

Posted by: BurnOut

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Originally Posted by maverick2010


	From the 6 that said no. Tell me why?

Read the beginning of Ezekiel, and tell me, with a straight face, that that really happened.

Personally, I think that the major religious texts in the world are some of the greatest fictional works ever created. Just my $.02... don't get huffy.

Posted by: 65fairlane

Religion as a whole is a tool for controlling the masses. If you choose to believe in God that is your business, but to take words written by man as the word of God seems a bit too much of a stretch for me. To think that anyone anywhere can write or interpret anything without their opinion coloring it seems impossible to me.

Posted by: MadScientistMatt

Resident "sort-of-fundementalist" Christian checking in here.

I think it's worth noting that while one of the Bible's authors states that Scripture is "inspired" by God, at nowhere does the Bible actually state that it should be taken literally. Assuming that it should be taken literally is just an interpretation, although I think it's often a reasonable and straightforward one. Often. There are some cases where I don't think it is reasonable, and others where I don't think it matters whether it is literally true or not.

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Originally Posted by BurnOut


	Read the beginning of Ezekiel, and tell me, with a straight face, that that really happened. Personally, I think that the major religious texts in the world are some of the greatest fictional works ever created. Just my $.02... don't get huffy.

Even the most literally-minded fundementalist you can find will admit that Ezekiel was seeing things that weren't there. Since Ezekiel called it a "vision," it seems like he was pretty much aware that what he was seeing was not, in an objective sense, real. So, I can tell you with a straight face that I believed that really happened as described, but "really happened" in this case means that I believe that God caused Ezekiel to see things that weren't there. The atheist could substitute "dreams" or "really bad wine" for "God" in the previous sentance.

As for translations - actually, the better Bibles out there have only been translated once. There are enough copies of the books of the Bible in their original language, and usually when they differ, it is only by one version phrasing a line or two in a slightly different way. So we can reconstruct the original text in the original languages with reasonable accuracy. There's a couple parts where we aren't so sure, but most Bibles explain these varients in the footnotes. The King James Version and the New International Version, probably the two most common English language Bibles today, were translated from the original languages. No translation of a translation of a translation here.

Of course, being an accurate reproduction of the original does not mean the original was true! After all, when you have a book about a God that cuts a river in half like a stick of butter, transforms people into solid salt, and then turns into a man and then dies, that's already pretty hard to swallow. I'm not going to get angry at someone for thinking it is primarily a work of fiction.

Posted by: Carpet_Liquer

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	The King James Version and the New International Version, probably the two most common English language Bibles today, were translated from the original languages. No translation of a translation of a translation here.

Heres a good read about how the K.J. version was made.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvhist.html

As for what I believe...I'm not gonna start.

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