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Return of the Supercharged Harley F-150!

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Posted by: KingofSlackers

I just found out about this in the meeting this morning so I got on the site and pulled the information up. Just thought I would share.



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April 11, 2007


To: All Ford Dealers
Subject: 2007MY Harley-Davidson Supercharged F-150 Now Available!

The 2007MY Harley-Davidson F-150 has always been a powerful blend of features and attitude. Now, with the Supercharger Ship Thru Package, which provides 450 supercharged horsepower and 500 lb.-ft. of torque, it boasts unbelievable performance as well. This special performance package from SALEEN, along with the custom-tuned exhaust, leaves no doubt about this truck's serious street capabilities.

SALEEN Ship Thru ordering provides a complete vehicle on delivery, requiring no additional dealer modifications.

Features twin-screw supercharger
Includes dual-stage water-to-air intercooler
Maximum 5-lb. boost enhances engine performance
Gauge Pod option features boost (PSI) and air-charge temperature (ACT) gauges
Performance engineered and tested by SALEEN for dependable, reliable operation
Backed by SALEEN Limited Powertrain Warranty – 3 years/36,000 miles
Ford Motor Credit financing available
MSRP is $6,500
This package is available for order immediately. Hero cards will arrive at regions and dealers beginning approximately April 19th.

How to Order:

Orders must include the following SALEEN Supercharger Upfit Ship Thru Codes (31C and D9F) and Ford Required Equipment Order Codes.

Ford Required Equipment
2007 Model Year Orders (Order Codes)

31C and D9F
Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 4x2 (86H, 995)
Moonroof (43M)
Trailer Tow Package (535)
Ordering Restrictions

Available on Harley-Davidson F-150 4x2 models only
Not available with 5.4L FFV engine (99V)


2007 Harley-Davidson F-150 Supercharger Ship Thru Package

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2007 F-150 Harley-Davidson Supercharger Ship Thru Package - National


Summary:

Harley-Davidson supercharger package available ($6,500 MSRP) on 2007 Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 4x2 models only. Not available with 5.4L FFV engine (99V).

Ford Required Equipment:
Body Code:
Order Code:

Ford Harley-Davidson F-150 4x2
W12
86H, 995

Moonroof

43M

Trailer Tow Package

535



Package Contents:
Order Code:
MSRP:

Supercharger Ship Thru Package
31C and D9F
$6,500




Posted by: bl3wbyu

Sweet. Think it'll give the Ram SRT-10 a run for its money?


Posted by: LS1JAY

0-60? 1/4 mile times?


Posted by: John

No pictures?

I still like the older ones better. The 4 door HD F150's are nice.


Posted by: An11SecRanger

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Originally Posted by LS1JAY
0-60? 1/4 mile times?


Whatever it is, I won't be satisfied!


I wish these folks would get the heads out of their collective ass and build something with good power and doesn't weight two tons!
I don't like the Harley-Davidson truck (I never have liked them) and I don't see the point in making the $6,500 option available only on that POS!
It only serves to stop people like me from buying the damn thing! And these ass-clowns wonder why they never make a real profit on the "performance" vehicles!
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Well, let's here ... I can't see why we can't sell these trucks. We added $6,500 the the price that was already about $20,000 more than it was worth and we still can't sell enough! I just don't gIt it.


It would be nice if they were smart enough to realize some of us would buy a new one every 3-5 years, if only they would make something that isn't filled with bullshit (we don't need!) toys that only add wieght! Instead, they keep selling POS and I must buy a used vehicle and mod it, then go outrun the tank they thought we should buy.
Can anyone tell, I don't like the way they think (or don't think)?


Posted by: John

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Originally Posted by An11SecRanger
Instead, they keep selling POS and I must buy a used vehicle and mod it, then go outrun the tank they thought we should buy.
Can anyone tell, I don't like the way they think (or don't think)?



Yeah, 'cause they're really twistin' yer arm on that one!


Posted by: KingofSlackers

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Originally Posted by LS1JAY
0-60? 1/4 mile times?




They just annouced the option Jay... Geez man...



Trust though, when we get one I will take it out


Posted by: An11SecRanger

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Originally Posted by John
Yeah, 'cause they're really twistin' yer arm on that one!


I'm not sure what you're referring to because you quoted part of one paragragh and all (one sentence) of another.
Anyway, they aren't twisting my arm. But, IMO, they are pissing in the wind, if that's their idea of making money.
The problem (for Ford) is the fact that they are having "financial problems" and it seems as if they just refuse to "mass-market" what many people want (and would actually PAY for). That's too bad.
But hey, I helped 'em out, last weekend, when I bought a Focus SES for my wife. She loves it (even though, it isn't worth the amount of money I paid for it)! I like the fact that it can go way over 30 mpg of fuel (her Grand Marquis gets about 21)!
Maybe, someday, they'll offer something I like, at a reasonable price ... But, I doubt it. I sure as hell won't be expecting it!

My point about the H-D truck is simple ...
Ford could sell the F150 STX ($21,905) with that blower @ $6,500 (it can be bought for about $1,000 less from Magna Charger Inc.), on that engine (a $1,645 option PLUS the mandatory 4 speed auto @ $1,095) with a LSD (a $300 option with a choice of gearing, but free with 4.10s) for a grand total of $31,445. But NO!
Those bozos have decided for you that you should start out with the (PIG HEAVY!) H-D addition (SUPERCREW ONLY) @ $37,210 and that you should throw in BS like a moon roof (@ $995) and a tow package (@ $350) and then, for a mere $45,055, you can own a supercharged Ford pick-up truck!
OH! But, DON'T ask for a long box or a 4X4 because that would just add unnecessary weight.
That's ridiculous!
It's kinda like going into the dealership and asking for a Fusion and the salesman replies "ya know, I think you should start of with a Jaguar XKR and go from there!"

Here's what I say Ford can do with the 3 ton tank of a Harley-Davidson Supercrew and the over-priced blower ...
They can shove it up their collective ass (with their heads) and spin it to the right!
For the record; if they offered the F-150 STX I described above, for the price I posted, I'd buy it today! Even though, I could build it for less and I'd much prefer a turbo!


Posted by: John

Oh my!

Someone better call the WAAAAAAAmbulance!


Posted by: An11SecRanger

OK, Johnnie, I THINK I can see where you THINK you want to go with this. But, are you sure?
I'm thinkin' I'm going to crush you, but it's up to you.
By the way, I typed it already and it's prolly gonna make ya cry and smash keyboards en stuff. Supta you.


Posted by: John

You need some cheese to go with all that whine!


Posted by: An11SecRanger

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Originally Posted by John
You need some cheese to go with all that whine!


OH NO! That's way too weak for me to post what I had.
If I posted it up after that weak shit, you'd hate me and I don't want you to hate me!

I gotta go. I'll be back tonight and maybe I'll crush you then!


Posted by: Grape Ape

Where's the whining? Seemed to me he was making a point that for him, it would be better if Ford offered a substantially closer to base model pickup with the 5.4L supercharged V8 as an option instead of the extremely expensive H-D version. I can't disagree with that. First, because it's his opinion and second, because I totally agree with that idea. There's no need to build a supercharged model that happens to also be the heaviest 2WD version available. Supercharging is for better performance, afterall. This H-D version is like trying to keep up with the joneses, but NEVER passing them! Ford will have gone from the Lightning, the most respected 1/2 ton on earth, to the H-D of old, which added and subtracted just enough to give it performance numbers between the L2 and the L1 when both are stock. Not my cup 'o tea either.

Topping the list is the roughly $12,000 higher pricetag from the L2 to the H-D model with the S/C added. For the difference, you could take the regular H-D itself and make more of it.


Posted by: KingofSlackers

Is no one making the connection that the earlier Harley Trucks started getting the lighting supercharger... I can't remember when they started it but I know the 03 Harley trucks had it. In 06 when the Harley package came back to the 150, everyone bitched that it wasn't supercharged... now that it is an option people are still bitching...

Goes to show that some people ALWAYS have to find something to bitch and moan about.


Posted by: John

Dude, the Lightning engine is the reason I want a SCrew HD F-150. The engien was detuned for the HD but you can still get all the Lightning parts for it from FRPP. They will bolt right on and it will even take the upgraded twin screw supercharger. I think the only other thing you need to do is put the Lightning computers in. Otherwise, it's the same engine and is likely putting out power well above it's rated power levels. It's a 4-door Lightning with 4 leather bucket seats. It's pimptastic! Especially in the black/silver two-tone.


Posted by: No Rice Allowed

Now, with what one of them will cost to buy, Will I be able to get a Harley with it? I don't know about you guys, but I don't need a truck with a supercharger on it, if it's design to tow an expensive motorcycle...Are you going to be rippin' up tires with it, while having a Harley in the bed?? I don't think so...Plain stupid of you ask me...People with Harley's are in cruise mode.....


Posted by: KingofSlackers

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Originally Posted by No Rice Allowed
Now, with what one of them will cost to buy, Will I be able to get a Harley with it? I don't know about you guys, but I don't need a truck with a supercharger on it, if it's design to tow an expensive motorcycle...Are you going to be rippin' up tires with it, while having a Harley in the bed?? I don't think so...Plain stupid of you ask me...People with Harley's are in cruise mode.....




I think the key though is that people that are "Harley People", buy anything with Harley on it. Doesn't matter if they need it or not, they want it for the name.


Posted by: John

Yeah but if you look past all the "dirtbag rider" crap, there is a very nice truck there! I don't know about the new one but just because teh truck has HD slathered all over it doesn't mean it's intended to tow Harleys and that's it. It's like Ford being on the huge Eddie Bauer kick in the 90's.

The original HD trucks are very capable being able to hold a 1/2 ton in the cargo box or tow something like 6500 pounds. They also have a very nicely equipped interior with all kinds of bells and whistles plus a unique black leather trim package. The leather is similar to what Harley Davidson uses on thier seats and saddle bags and it's all over the interior. The windows came with the darkest tint Ford could legally put on them and they sit low and handle well but still do truck stuff.

Put the 01-04 Lightning bits on the engine and even replace the front bumper cover with a Lightning bumper cover and you gotyourself one badass truck! Take it up to JDM and drop another $1500 and Jim willhave you wasting SRT-10 Rams in stylin' comfort!

I'm torn between getting an old MN12 chassied 4.6L T-bird or an HD F-150 SCrew.


Posted by: No Rice Allowed

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Originally Posted by John
Yeah but if you look past all the "dirtbag rider" crap, there is a very nice truck there! I don't know about the new one but just because teh truck has HD slathered all over it doesn't mean it's intended to tow Harleys and that's it. It's like Ford being on the huge Eddie Bauer kick in the 90's.

The original HD trucks are very capable being able to hold a 1/2 ton in the cargo box or tow something like 6500 pounds. They also have a very nicely equipped interior with all kinds of bells and whistles plus a unique black leather trim package. The leather is similar to what Harley Davidson uses on thier seats and saddle bags and it's all over the interior. The windows came with the darkest tint Ford could legally put on them and they sit low and handle well but still do truck stuff.

Put the 01-04 Lightning bits on the engine and even replace the front bumper cover with a Lightning bumper cover and you gotyourself one badass truck! Take it up to JDM and drop another $1500 and Jim willhave you wasting SRT-10 Rams in stylin' comfort!

I'm torn between getting an old MN12 chassied 4.6L T-bird or an HD F-150 SCrew.



I'm not doubting it isn't a good truck, I just can't see who are they trying to attract with it? I would think something along the lines of a Navigator's ride..would fit the Harley crowd just nicely in a truck version...Make the truck ride the smoothest it could ride, while having enough torque to carry the bike or bikes...up a hill...


Posted by: Grape Ape

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Originally Posted by John
I'm torn between getting an old MN12 chassied 4.6L T-bird or an HD F-150 SCrew.

Well, one will cost under 25K with massive upgrades included. The other will cost about 50K... That would help my decision.

Tax, tag, title and so on, plus the tuning and you're easily at 50K. If you've got that much to toss at a pickup truck, have at it. But don't be pissed when someone in a Ranger comes along and blows your "stylin' " doors off for under 5 or 10K and then shows up at the party later in a late model Lincoln Towncar or something!


Posted by: An11SecRanger

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
Well, one will cost under 25K with massive upgrades included.


Yeah like an engine swap, including the turbos and intercoolers!


Posted by: John

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
Well, one will cost under 25K with massive upgrades included. The other will cost about 50K... That would help my decision.

Tax, tag, title and so on, plus the tuning and you're easily at 50K. If you've got that much to toss at a pickup truck, have at it. But don't be pissed when someone in a Ranger comes along and blows your "stylin' " doors off for under 5 or 10K and then shows up at the party later in a late model Lincoln Towncar or something!




Where are you getting those numbers?

There is an '03 HD F-150 at the dealer up the street from me for $18K. I am very tempted to go and buy it. For another $6K, I can get new, higher boost pulleys for the blower, a gigantic throttle body, the Lightning upper intake manifold and a complete exhaust system including headers and a new ECM burn with a dyno tune and be making well over 500 horses at the wheels. That puts the total at $24K, half of what you are quoting, and faster than an SRT-10 Ram. And probably that new HD F-150 too.

I don't really care if a noisy little Ranger is faster. I don't have to stop and pick up my "Town Car" to take all my friends to the party with me. If I want to go faster than the Ranger, I have other vehicles to dispense with such macho silliness.


Posted by: An11SecRanger

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Originally Posted by John
Where are you getting those numbers?

There is an '03 HD F-150 at the dealer up the street from me for $18K. I am very tempted to go and buy it. For another $6K, I can get new, higher boost pulleys for the blower, a gigantic throttle body, the Lightning upper intake manifold and a complete exhaust system including headers and a new ECM burn with a dyno tune and be making well over 500 horses at the wheels. That puts the total at $24K, half of what you are quoting, and faster than an SRT-10 Ram. And probably that new HD F-150 too.

I don't really care if a noisy little Ranger is faster. I don't have to stop and pick up my "Town Car" to take all my friends to the party with me. If I want to go faster than the Ranger, I have other vehicles to dispense with such macho silliness.



I'll be somewhere around here riding a dirt-bike ... Later


Posted by: Grape Ape

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Originally Posted by John
Where are you getting those numbers?

Simply by knowing the NM12 is long since out of production and could be highly modified for 25K and then the fact we're discussing a 2007(maybe 8) F-150 H-D. It isn't like you said you were considering buying a used 2003 F150, afterall.

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I don't really care if a noisy little Ranger is faster. I don't have to stop and pick up my "Town Car" to take all my friends to the party with me.

What friends?

The reality is, the desire to go fast and the desire to go in total style and luxury just don't mix well. I don't care whatcha buy personally. If you want to go fast, you'll pay for it on one end or the other when you add any amount of luxury or creature comfort.

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If I want to go faster than the Ranger, I have other vehicles to dispense with such macho silliness.

Like what?


Posted by: StoneFox

I dont understand whats not to like. Its a very nice truck, with more than enough power.......and its a Ford


Posted by: KingofSlackers

I'm glad to see the return of the supercharger for the HD trucks. Maybe it's a step in the right direction to bring back the Lighting... who knows maybe this is a test for it.


And as far as luxury and performance go... yeah, God knows those two can never mix...

Don't Click This Link. It Doesn't Have Anything About Luxury or Performance Mixing!

Don't Click This One Either!!!


Posted by: John

Sorry, I have to jump in on the fun here.


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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
Simply by knowing the NM12 is long since out of production and could be highly modified for 25K



First off, what the hell is an NM12? Do you mean the MN12 cars? 'Cuase there isn't a whole lot in the way of go-fast goodies for them. They had resonable performance with a good deal of comfort for a very nice price. That and they are just good looking cars. They are at least 10 years old now and still seem current. It looks like Ford just took the MN12 chassis and poured the cars over the wheels. Gorgeous works of art IMO. The Mark VII was poured over the FN10 platform which is essentially a lengthened and widened MN12 chassis.

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
and then the fact we're discussing a 2007(maybe 8) F-150 H-D. It isn't like you said you were considering buying a used 2003 F150, afterall.



Actually, I did say i was talking about the mid-2000's HD F-150 in all posts except the ones where I was mocking those who are whining in other posts. Your inability to comprehend what you are reading is not my fault. Others seem to have figured it out, especially when I started discussing swapping 01-04 Lightning parts into an 03 HD F-150. That was a pretty big clue in right there since the new 5.4L has 3 valves and none of the old Lightning stuff fits.

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
What friends?



This is just childish and gives all the more reason not to take you seriously at all.

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
The reality is, the desire to go fast and the desire to go in total style and luxury just don't mix well. I don't care whatcha buy personally. If you want to go fast, you'll pay for it on one end or the other when you add any amount of luxury or creature comfort.



The reality is that you are dead wrong. If you were right, we would not have BMW's, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, DeTomaso, Jaguar, Aston Martin, the hot rod Cadillacs, the Lincoln LS, the Chrysler 300C and it's SRT variant and many others from Japan and Europe and even some we don't see from Europe and Japan. Sure they all cost money but if you want to be coddled, it'll cost you. Me, I'm happy with the sparse equipment of my truck. I have "luxury" items like power windows and locks but thats because SVT figured out that if they use power mechanisms from one of the cars, they can shave 2 pounds per door off of the overall weight of a standard F-150 with manual locks and windows.

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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
Like what?



Like nothing I feel like mentioning right now. There are things in the works, don't you worry. Although, we are next in line for a new BOSS 302 block and I'm trying to get World Products to send us a Man-O-War 302 block with Man-O-War heads so we can boost it to kingdom-come. But the heads aren't in production yet and probably won't be until June.


Posted by: John

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Originally Posted by KingofSlackers
And as far as luxury and performance go... yeah, God knows those two can never mix...

Don't Click This Link. It Doesn't Have Anything About Luxury or Performance Mixing!

Don't Click This One Either!!!



Damnit! I clicked on them by accident!

Yeah, the Cadillac Corvette is nice. They got a ton of power out of that Northstar V8 in it too. I know a guy who has one and they are no slouch at all. He said his biggest gripe is that you can't see around the ass. Overall though, it's a nice ride. Very cushy but when you stomp to "go" pedal, it moves with the authority of an angry freight train. It's got two speeds, "Faster" and "Too Fast".

The CTS-V though, that is an INSANE car. It's what the GTO COULD be! I pulled up next to one when they first came out. The dude driving was revving his engine and he wanted to tangle. I figured, why not? It's just a Cadillac, I won't lose THAT bad I wouldn't think. The light went green, he got the jump and I peddled it off the line. Once I got traction, I shoved the gas peddle so far into the carpet, the throttle body was tickling my toes. It grunted and started to run and I was barely getting anything on him. Then he hit 3rd gear and started to really pull away. I hit some expansion joints in my lane and got some wicked tire spin and he was off like a shot. He made the next traffic light but I got stuck. If we were at the track, I would have lost him at the line, caught him by the 1/8th mile marker but he would have walked away from me and beat me by at least a length and a half after he hit 3rd gear.


Posted by: Grape Ape

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Originally Posted by StoneFox
I dont understand whats not to like. Its a very nice truck, with more than enough power.......and its a Ford

It's nice, but the price isn't. And performance could be highly enhanced by the lack of weight attained by doing without much of what makes the H-D stand apart from others. Leather, power everything, crewcab. Those arent "performance parts" for a pickup truck. Especially not a Ford, which isn't known for being "built for pretty boys" even today.
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Originally Posted by John
First off, what the hell is an NM12? Do you mean the MN12 cars? 'Cuase there isn't a whole lot in the way of go-fast goodies for them. They had resonable performance with a good deal of comfort for a very nice price. That and they are just good looking cars. They are at least 10 years old now and still seem current. It looks like Ford just took the MN12 chassis and poured the cars over the wheels. Gorgeous works of art IMO. The Mark VII was poured over the FN10 platform which is essentially a lengthened and widened MN12 chassis.

So there you go... For 25K you could buy a thunderchicken and make it fast and comfortable. There are tons of available parts for them. Afterall, they are modular engines just as the Mustang got until the '05 model and the similarities are so great that nearly anything available for the Mustang is also available for the T-bird, including the 99-up heads. That includes any and all internal upgrades, superchargers, turbochargers, nitrous systems... cams... The list doesn't end until shortly before the Mustang list ends. If you have concern over that, enter the 351W. For 25K, you could get the car AND the 15K engine to make it run 10's!

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Actually, I did say i was talking about the mid-2000's HD F-150 in all posts except the ones where I was mocking those who are whining in other posts. Your inability to comprehend what you are reading is not my fault. Others seem to have figured it out, especially when I started discussing swapping 01-04 Lightning parts into an 03 HD F-150. That was a pretty big clue in right there since the new 5.4L has 3 valves and none of the old Lightning stuff fits.

Read the thread title... Move along. You're the one whining, if anybody. You claimed Ranger was and indeed, that's just a matter of your opinion not even remotely matching his words. He clearly stated his opinion and said it was exactly that. You called him a whiner... What's more, you're saying what he said on a close level. Spend less, get more... Talk about an inability to comprehend...


Posted by: John

No, he was griping about the NEW one costing so much and not being what he wanted. I said I'd prefer the old one. I also said there were possibilities with it but overall, price is not my concern. They are set up real nice. I guess though that you have to spin it a certain way to fit your argument.

As far as the "For 25K you could buy a thunderchicken and make it fast and comfortable", I don't know where you are getting that from. I didn't say I was going to do anything of teh sort. get the V8 variant and they are already fast and comfortable. Get the SuperCoupe variant and they are faster and comfortable. As far as go-fast goodies go, there isn't much. They don't have the same engine as the Mustangs. Different heads, different intake manifolds and different induction systems. You would need to do a good deal of work to get the engine to a point where it could even accept Mustang parts before you could think about moving onwards and upwards. On top of that, 4 speed trans in them is poo and wouldn't hold more than 300 horses without issues. About the only thing you can do is supercharge it, change the computer tune and throw a cat-back exhaust on it and even then, you aren't going to get much out of it.

But go ahe